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Arlene says:

As part of our accessibility work we find lots of clients asking how JavaScript and accessibility can sit together according to the WAI guidelines.

Dafydd says:

I'd imagine it wouldn't impede it as such. JavaScript allows you to do all kinds of things - it's a bit of a silly question. A bit like saying the same about java... It's all a case of what you do with it.

Arlene says:

For example, if a button caused a JavaScript routine to be run could the screen reader access that information generated by the JavaScript if it was in HTML?

Arlene says:

I.e., how would that function work with non-JavaScript enabled browsers?

Arlene says:

Not that screen readers always have to work with non-JavaScript enabled browsers

Dafydd says:

As screen readers are an extra layer put on top of a browser it would have to depend on the screen reader. I'd imagine some would be compatible with JavaScript, some not.

Arlene says:

With the added headache that those using screen readers would be unlikely to be able to operate a mouse, so the code has to be input device independent

Dafydd says:

I'd also guess it would depend on how you add JavaScript to the page - if you do it so the browser DEPENDS on that JavaScript you may well have problems if the screen reader doesn't interpret it.

Dafydd says:

Often you can add 'non-JavaScript' approximations, that don't do every flashy thing the JavaScript does, but still present a usable interface.

Arlene says:

So would you also code for browsers that don't support JavaScript by using

Dafydd says:

I'd think you'd have to. You simply can't assume a screen reader will handle all of JavaScript – in fact a lot of it simply wouldn't make any sense to a Text to Audio screen reader for example.

Arlene says:

Are all versions of IE/Netscape JavaScript compatible?

Dafydd says:

Very early ones weren't - but we're talking about 1.0ish

Dafydd says:

JavaScript in IE and N/S can work differently anyhow - sometimes you need to write code for each of them.

Arlene says:

"- In fact a lot of it simply wouldn't make any sense to a Text to Audio screen reader for example." This is a problem as many sight-impaired users would use technology to transform the site to text only then use a basic screen reader to read the textual version

Dafydd says:

JavaScript is powerful - it can do things like change the text of a paragraph as you move your pointer around the page. That kind of thing would be v. Tricky to translate into pure text...

Arlene says:

Doesn't help if you don't have a pointer though

Dafydd says:

Well exactly - so in that example putting it through a screen reader loses something.

Dafydd says:

It's all a case of how you implement the JavaScript. If the page is relying on it working then you're out of luck. If it offers a decent alternative in (as you said) the

Arlene says:

So, to summarize...

Dafydd says:

Well, I'd say that generally JavaScript won't make it 'through' to a screen reader - and if you ARE going to use it, you must be certain to give a viable alternative for the screen readers.